Month: August 2022

167: Contradiction, Part 1

This is the first part of a series where Denver discusses why contradiction exists, why it is a necessary part of our development, and how we can understand apparent contradictions in gospel principles.

Continue reading “167: Contradiction, Part 1”

Rescuing the Restoration

I’ve intended to put up a link for some time, and am finally getting it done. The book Rescuing the Restoration: The Lord Sets His Hand Again is available on Amazon. It is a summary prepared by over 30 contributors, and answers many questions about a religious movement inspired by God (not a church) that is currently underway. It is a grassroots inspired effort to reconnect with what the Lord began in 1820, and documents the things now underway. By clicking on the title it will link you to the book on Amazon.

August 20 Fireside Information

This is the schedule for the August 20th Fireside, and other planned activities this same coming weekend:

Friday August 19th
6pm – Gathering at Ianthius & Gwen Barlow’s Home -All are welcome!
6:30pm – Breaking our fast together (Those that are fasting)
Bring something to BBQ for yourself
Side dishes/refreshments/cutlery will be provided
Ianthius Barlow’s Home Address:
2264 E South St, Fredonia, AZ 86022
Google Maps Pin: https://goo.gl/maps/b7htxPBDFCG4TR3r7

This is the Apple Maps Pin: https://maps.apple.com/?address=2264%20E%202600%20S,%20Valentine,%20AZ%20%2086022,%20United%20States&ll=36.943553,-112.922763&q=Dropped%20Pin&_ext=EiYp1uHoGzN4QkAx644hQmo7XMA5VLcOeFl5QkBBlUkMG7I6XMBQAw%3D%3D

Saturday August 20th
1PM – Fireside Begins at Holm Heritage Event Center
Agenda will be Whitney Horning, followed by Denver Snuffer, followed by a Q&A (if time allows)
We are anticipating this will be about of 2-3 hours long with a 5-10 minute break to be determined by the speakers.
Once the fireside concludes, we will rearrange the chairs and set up tables to eat and hang out. There will be salads prepared and a taco food truck has agreed to show up. IF YOU ANTICIPATE UTILIZING THE FOOD TRUCK FOR YOUR DINNER MEAL, PLEASE EMAIL US SO WE CAN GIVE THEM AN APPROXIMATE HEADCOUNT.
EMAIL ADDRESS: [email protected]

The address for the Holm Heritage Event Center is:

965 North Carling Street, Hildale, Utah 84737
Google Maps Pin: https://goo.gl/maps/AQGmgMWZs3Z7ruE46
Apple Maps Pin: https://maps.apple.com/?address=1055%20Carling%20St,%20Hurricane,%20UT%20%2084737,%20United%20States&ll=37.008519,-112.970710&q=Dropped%20Pin&_ext=EiYpZZtlUYSAQkAxHCCAtHw+XMA543CLraqBQkBBWKMlZcQ9XMBQAw%3D%3D

The fireside will also be live streamed live on YouTube, linked here:
https://youtu.be/J5H_bBT_vaA

Sunday August 21st
10AM – Gathering at the Colorado City Cottonwood Park for Sacrament
Bread (including gluten free) and wine will be provided
We will have some seating available. Just in case we don’t have enough, please bring your own blanket or a comfy chair if you can.
Sacrament cups will be provided
Following Sacrament, we will have 1 to 2 speakers share a spiritual message.

Cottonwood Park address is: 100–176 Colvin St Colorado City, AZ 86021
Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/5ShM4FMpCQA7Fj2o9
Apple Maps: https://maps.apple.com/?address=100%E2%80%93176%20Colvin%20St,%20Colorado%20City,%20AZ%20%2086021,%20United%20States&auid=3210002757397407582&ll=36.995605,-112.972929&lsp=9902&q=Cottonwood%20Park&_ext=CjIKBQgEEOIBCgQIBRADCgQIBhASCgQIChABCgQIUhAHCgQIVRANCgQIWRAGCgUIpAEQARIkKTnL0Yg+f0JAMdjC4iZZPlzAOQ2h7xOsf0JAQR89j5srPlzA

FIRESIDE FLYER
Flyers for this event have been direct mailed to all 2000 residents of the Colorado City/Hildale Area. Here is a link if you would like to share it with anyone. https://www.dropbox.com/s/31xmboa4shsi4nk/Afternoon%20Fireside%20Flyer%20%28CMYK%29.png?dl=0
INVITATION VIDEO
Here is a link to the invitation video that is being shared around the polygamist community. Please share this with anyone you feel would benefit from this fireside.
https://youtu.be/MsIXKd6LLZM
LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS
Water Canyon Resort still has cabins available for the weekend. They can be reserved at watercanyonresort.com They have also recently just opened an rv/trailer park and those reservations can be made by calling Shane at 435-229-4747.
There is also free camping available on nearby BLM land. Here is a link:
https://www.blm.gov/visit/canaan-mountain-wilderness
If you have any questions, please email us at [email protected]
We hope to see you all soon! And please forward this email along to all those within our community.
Sincerely,
August 20th Fireside Fellowship

August 20th Talk

I will be in Hildale, Utah on the 20th of this month to address the subject of Plural Wives again. It is not a subject I enjoy discussing, but this will be an attempt to at least open the door for those of that outcast community to understand why I disagree with the practice. I’m hoping those who live in the isolated confines of practicing an illegal form of marriage will be willing to at least listen to the talk. I am not coming to re-injure old wounds, but to explain how I have reached a contrary conclusion.

Both sides should stop fearing a discussion across the divide. I’m not coming to condemn or judge, but to explain my views and why I hold them. It is free to the public and will be held at the Holm Heritage Center, 1065 N. Carling Street, Hildale, UT 84784. I hope members of the various factions will accept the invitation to attend. I’m not going to ask you to join an organization, donate, or purchase anything. I’m just asking for some of your time to listen. I hope to say something of value.

Answer on Forgiveness

In response to prayers over the last several months I received the following Answer to an Inquiry About Forgiveness:

You have inquired of me concerning the questions raised by the scriptures which state, Then came Peter to him and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Until seven times? Jesus said unto him, I say not unto you, until seven times, but, until seventy times seven; on the one hand, and the scripture which states, You shall love your wife with all your heart, and shall cleave unto her and none else, and he that looks upon a woman to lust after her shall deny the faith, and shall not have the spirit, and if he repent not he shall be cast out. You shall not commit adultery, and he that commits adultery and repents not shall be cast out; and he that commits adultery and repents with all his heart, and forsakes and does it no more, you shall forgive him; but if he does it again, he shall not be forgiven, but shall be cast out; on the other hand. I answer your inquiry as follows:
In the Answer to Prayer for Covenant you were told to, Be like me. You have all been wounded, your hearts pierced through with sorrows because of how the world has treated you. But you have also scarred one another by your unkind treatment of each other, and you do not notice your misconduct toward others because you think yourself justified in this. You bear the scars on your countenances, from the soles of your feet to the head, and every heart is faint. Your visages have been so marred that your hardness, mistrust, suspicions, resentments, fear, jealousies, and anger toward your fellow man bear outward witness of your inner self; you cannot hide it. When I appear to you, instead of confidence, you feel shame. You fear and withdraw from me because you bear the blood and sins of your treatment of brothers and sisters. Come to me and I will make sins as scarlet become white as snow, and I will make you stand boldly before me, confident of my love. I descended below it all, and know the sorrows of you all, and have borne the grief of it all, and I say to you, Forgive one another. Be tender with one another, pursue judgment, bless the oppressed, care for the orphan, and uplift the widow in her need, for I have redeemed you from being orphaned and taken you that you are no longer a widowed people. Rejoice in me, and rejoice with your brethren and sisters who are mine also. Be one.
How can you be one if you gather together with another who has been the adulterer again after being forgiven? And how can a man love his wife with all his heart and cleave unto her and none else if he commit adultery again after being forgiven?
You did not ask, but remember that I have said also that, You shall not kill, and he that kills shall not have forgiveness, neither in this world nor in the world to come. And again, you shall not kill; he that kills shall die. You shall not steal, and he that steals and will not repent shall be cast out. You shall not lie; he that lies and will not repent shall be cast out. How can you be one with he who murders, with the liar who deceives, and with the thief who steals? I say to you that you cannot be one when you are fractured and your little ones threatened by the disobedience of the adulterer, murderer, liar and thief who will not repent.
You did not ask me, but I say that your question arises from the instructions I gave you: I have told you that to remove authority to use priesthood outside a man’s family requires a unanimous decision by twelve women. A council of twelve women must be convened, either in the man’s home fellowship among those who are acquainted with his daily walk, or in private at a general conference, also including among the twelve women from the conference those who are acquainted with his daily walk, so that no injustice results. Reinstatement of the man’s authority must be considered by the same council of twelve women when the man petitions for the decision to be rescinded, and requires seven of the twelve to agree upon his reinstatement, which can occur at any time. During the period of suspension, nothing affects the man’s duties and responsibility in his own family. I say to you, if a man has been suspended for adultery, and then been reinstated, and return again to adultery, he shall not be reinstated again, for to do so places my community at peril. These words were to guard so that no injustice results. I ask, is there injustice if my people cannot become one because of disobedience? Even a single disobedient soul who breaks the hearts of others by his sinful disobedience can destroy the peace of all my people. I say again, Each of you must equally walk truly in my path, not only to profess, but to do as you profess. You shall not show mercy to the disobedient when to do so results in injustice to the people who seek to become one. You shall not forgive the adulterer and welcome him into the community when he has been forgiven and returns again to his sin. You shall not place the community at peril by embracing the willful and unrepentant among you, to leave your little ones at peril of injury, harm, and destruction. Study the words given in the Answer to Prayer for Covenant, and you will see how to regard one another, how to succor one another, how to protect one another, and how to live in peace with one another. I have given what I have given to be followed, neither to be added to nor taken from, but to be your counsel and guide. Do as you are bidden and you will have peace in this troubled world, which will be your first reward.