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Email Response “Second Time”

I received an inquiry about my comment in the Ephriam talk about God’s hand “the second time.”  The inquirer referred to a letter Joseph wrote, directed my attention there, and asked about the “second time.” My response appears below:

God may yet set His hand a second time in still another generation (or generations, depending on the reaction today), if the work required is not done today.  When God begins to speak, we are obligated to inquire, listen and heed.  At present I do not expect any success in the present generation.  This world is so captured by a faithlessness and hardness that even the trump of an angel would fail to reach those alive today.  If mankind knew what He offers now, we would all make the necessary sacrifice to receive it.


Joseph spoke as the Elias sent to prepare.  He accomplished all that was required in his day.  But he did not accomplish what might have been done if those who lived in his day had been faithful.  There will come another with the Spirit of Elijah, whom Joseph foretold.  When that window opens it will require better response than in Joseph’s day, or another generation will pass away un-redeemed, but not un-warned.  Right now the question is whether we are willing to still receive what Joseph in the spirit of Elias gave us.  Hence the present series of talks.  They are designed to let us remember.  Before the Spirit of Elijah will be permitted to be heard, we must remember.  God cannot give more when we forget what we already have received.  

Then still another will come who is the Messiah.  But all these are part of “the second time” in the Lord’s economy.  Likewise, they will all minister to a “generation” in the language of prophecy, while in the reckoning of men it involves generations.
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I got a response saying the writer was trying hard, but seemed to be spending too much time with things like changing diapers to get any real breakthroughs.  I responded:

changing diapers and being a husband and father are EXACTLY what will bring about both what you seek and what God wants to happen as well.  


Daily, small acts of service to others, and in particular inside the family, are what we lack.  We need better husbands and better fathers, more loving marriages and healthy families most of all.  I will not get to that topic for two talks.  But it is coming.

Too much attention is being paid to matters outside the family, where we have no control.  It is family life, above all, where God’s great work gets done.

Ephriam Transcript – Christ: The Prototype of the Saved Man

The Ephriam transcript is now posted to Scribd. It is an expanded version and will read differently than the recording.

It is linked on the blog under DS Talks.

Las Vegas and St. George

Las Vegas Lecture

Date:  Friday, July 25, 2014
Time: 9:30 a.m.
Place: Fiesta Henderson Hotel & Casino
          777 West Lake Mead Parkway
          Henderson, NV 89015
Seats: Cancun Room A/B, seats 150

St. George Lecture

Date:  Saturday, July 26, 2014
Time:  9:30 a.m.
Place:  Lexington Hotel and Conference Center
           850 Bluff Street
           St. George, UT 84770
Seats:  Ballroom, seats 275

One Talk

The series of lectures that began in Boise and will end in Phoenix are one talk. There are three left. Each one of the talks builds on earlier material.

If you are interested in understanding, then it would be beneficial to rehear or reread the previous ones. The later talks will connect things that were raised in the earlier ones. It is not possible to state everything at once. Pieces must be put together systematically.

Remember

“For what doth it profit a man if a gift is bestowed upon him, and he receive not the gift? Behold, he rejoices not in that which is given unto him, neither rejoices in him who is the giver of the gift.” (D&C 88: 33.)

From the moment Joseph Smith died, we have lost our memory of what God revealed through him. By forgetting we refuse the gift given by God.

First we must remember.

Until we remember what we were given, there is no reason for God to give more. Today we are being tested to see if we can be stirred to remember what came to light through Joseph.

It is up to God to decide whether the test is being passed. If we fail, there will be nothing further given this generation. We are on trial.

Will we remember? Will we finally rejoice in the gift and its giver?

Or will we cower in fear and look for every reason we can summon to ignore, oppose, dismiss and reject what we were offered? As Christ put it: “O fools and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken.” (Luke 24: 25.) Nothing has changed. Mankind is the same now as ever.

Sunstone August 2 @ 2:00

The preliminary program has set my Sunstone paper (Cutting Down the Tree of Life to Build a Wooden Bridge) for Saturday, August 2nd at 2:00. The session will last until 3:30 and include my paper, a response, and Q&A from the audience.

Today Joseph and Hyrum Died

This is the day Joseph and his brother Hyrum were killed. To be more accurate, it is the day Hyrum first, then Joseph momentarily afterwards, were killed.

I spent some time speaking yesterday with a friend I baptized shortly after my own baptism just over 40 years ago. He was a member of the LDS Church for thirty years, and was then excommunicated. I was a member for 40 years, and was then excommunicated. Neither of us intend to ever return to LDS Church membership, and therefore have no reason to curry favor.

The truth is, however, that both of our lives have been fundamentally blessed by the time we were members of the LDS Church. Both of us have experienced the “fruits” of converting. The results include reforming how we lived, what we did with our time, how we pursued education and employment, who we associated with, even how we look at the world now in contrast to how we did before.

I am grateful for every moment I belonged to the LDS Church. I hold no resentments toward it and believe that struggling to remain a member of the organization is worth the effort. It saddens me that there will be a mass resignation to protest the LDS Church’s policies this coming Pioneer Day. That is not the way to leave.

Both my friend and I were excommunicated. I didn’t quit. I would never have quit voluntarily. I would have stayed and tried to work within the organization to persuade by example, by precept, and by my testimony. Inside my own ward and stake I was very quiet. When asked to teach, I taught. When asked to speak, I spoke. But I didn’t force my views on anyone.

It is true I wrote a book. But the book is overpriced to discourage its purchase. It is not easily available, not advertised, not promoted and I’ve never handed it out to anyone. I think it is true. But it was written to help, not hurt. I think it does help.

I believe Joseph and Hyrum died in a worthy cause. I think the energy and light that exploded onto the world through Joseph Smith’s ministry has powered the LDS Church since his passing. Joseph’s profound effect was so great that, even in the absence of any leader even a fraction of Joseph’s stature, the LDS Church has been able to amass followers and do some considerable good. The absence of another leader like Joseph has slowed the momentum, and now the energy is almost entirely gone. But that does not change the goodness yet to be found inside the LDS Church still.

The forces who are in control of the organization are working harder to stifle what little light that still remains. But those who see this should not desert the battlefield. Stay and testify to what you know to be right. Fight against the darkness. You can be holy even if those around you are not. Read the circumstances in which Mormon and his son Moroni lived. We have not yet fallen to that state.

There are problems to be sure. Why run from them? Why not confront them by your quiet example, your goodness and firm testimony of truth? Why not bring to the attention of others what they have not yet noticed on their own? If they cast you out, then it is their doing, not yours. Let them be the aggressor, and you stay true to the Lord and His path. It is better to offend them by your example of righteousness than to take offense at their example of unrighteousness. Christ is your example.

Saturday June 28, 2014 Ephriam, Utah

This coming Saturday, June 28th at 9:30 a.m., I will speak at Snow College in Ephriam, Utah. The talk will take place at:

Eccles Performing Arts Center
Concert Hall (seats 700)
Center Street and 300 East
Parking is available across the street

Like the previous six talks in this series, admission is free.

The talk will be on the topic of Christ. It will be between 2 1/2 and 3 hours in length.

Sunstone Registration

Sunstone is an organization that sponsors symposiums and publishes a magazine.  They charge for admission to their events.

Here are a few more details about their upcoming 2014 Salt Lake Sunstone Symposium:

For all three days, all workshops, and an MP3 recording of the talks the cost is $225.

For all three days without workshops, the cost is $90.

For a first time attendee, the cost for three days is $75.

For a student with a valid current student ID the cost is $35.

For a single day’s admission, it is $40.

The registration is available on the Sunstone site linked here.

I do not know what day or what time I will be speaking.